Senators of the 38th Canadian Parliament and same-sex marriage

The Civil Marriage Act was approved by the Canadian House of Commons on third reading on June 28, 2005 (see Members of the 38th Canadian Parliament and same-sex marriage). It then proceeded to the Canadian Senate where it was debated. The bill was debated on second reading in the Senate from July 4 to July 6, 2005 and then sent to committee. Third reading debate occurred on July 19, 2005 concluding in a vote that passed the bill which went on to receive royal assent on July 20, 2005.

Senate

	Group	For	Against	Abstained	Absent	Total
	Liberals	41	5	2	14	62
	Conservatives	1	15	1	5	22
	Independents	2	1	0	2	5
	Progressive Conservatives	2	0	0	3	5
	Independent NDP	1	0	0	0	1
	Totals	47	21	3	24	95

• For the purposes of this table, the Speaker of the Senate, who did not vote, is counted as an absentee since the official Senate tabulation does not list him as an abstainer.

Liberals

Name	2nd Reading	3rd Reading	Province
Willie Adams	Absent	Absent	Nunavut
	ActWin.com lists Adams as voting positively on 2 previous gay-related bills. He received an A+ rating, which the site deems as: "extremely pro-gay".
Jack Austin	Absent	Yes	British Columbia
	Austin is the leader of the government in the Senate and a member of cabinet and will be expected to vote with the government. In addition, ActWin.com lists Austin as voting positively on 2 previous gay-related bills. He received an A+ rating, which the site deems as: "extremely pro-gay". During the debate on second reading, Austin was the second Senator to speak in favour of the bill.
Lise Bacon	Yes	Yes	Quebec
George Baker	Yes	Yes	Newfoundland and Labrador
	Voted against Bill C-33 (1996), however, voted in favour of Bill C-38 on second reading.
Tommy Banks	No	No	Alberta
	Voted against Bill C-250 (2003). Real Women of Canada stated on its website he was one of a few senators along with Anne Cools to stall the bill as much as possible so that it wouldn't enter committee.
Michel Biron	Yes	Yes	Quebec
John G. Bryden	Yes	Yes	New Brunswick
	ActWin.com lists Bryden as voting positively on 2 previous gay-related bills. He received an A+ rating, which the site deems as: "extremely pro-gay". Therefore, his likely vote is "YES".
Catherine Callbeck	Yes	Yes	Prince Edward Island
Sharon Carstairs	Absent	Absent	Manitoba
	ActWin.com lists Carstairs as voting positively on 2 previous gay-related bills. Carstairs is listed as seconder of the bill in the Senate. July 5, 2005: She defended the Deputy Leader of the Government's time allocation motion to limit debate since the opposition could not reach an agreement how much time would be allotted to C-38 before entering committee. July 6, 2005: "Let's try the same on the prohibited grounds of race, national or ethnic origin. ... Maybe we could say the following: `Notwithstanding the superiority of the white race as ordained by God and illustrated by his divine wisdom in separating the races into different continents, non-white persons for the purposes of civil law shall be considered equal to white persons." "I often wondered what I would do if one of my daughters had come to me and said: `Mom, I have chosen a partner and the partner I have chosen is of the same gender." "How can I, who have had the glorious pleasure of 39 years of that experience, deny it to any other person?"
Maria Chaput	Yes	Yes	Manitoba
	Says she will vote in favour of same-sex marriage
Ione Christensen	Yes	Yes	Yukon
Joan Cook	Yes	Yes	Newfoundland and Labrador
	ActWin.com lists Cook as voting positively on 2 previous gay-related bills. She received an A+ rating, which the site deems as: "extremely pro-gay". Likely to vote in favour.
Eymard Corbin	Abstained	Abstained	New Brunswick
Jane Cordy	Yes	Yes	Nova Scotia
Jim Cowan	Yes	Absent	Nova Scotia
Joseph A. Day	Yes	Absent	New Brunswick
Roméo Dallaire	Absent	Yes	Quebec
	Indicated his support of SSM in Globe and Mail interview the day after his appointment. July 5, 2005: Criticized Senator Anne C. Cools' speech. "We cannot use the terms "dictatorship" and "Parliament" in the same sentence. That cannot exist. It is impossible. We are in an institution that reflects the democratic history of a country. The Liberal Party was elected and the Liberal Party has a leader who becomes the Prime Minister. It is up to the Prime Minister to take decisions such as appointing Senators. It is an extension of the democratic process. I do not see the urgent need to call an election when valuable and pertinent work is being done
Pierre de Bané	Absent	Absent	Quebec
Percy Downe	Absent	Yes	Prince Edward Island
Art Eggleton	Yes	Yes	Ontario
Joyce Fairbairn	Absent	Yes	Alberta
Marisa Ferretti Barth	Absent	Absent	Quebec
	Said she would vote against.
D. Ross Fitzpatrick	Yes	Yes	British Columbia
Joan Fraser	Yes	Absent	Quebec
	April 1, 2004: While debating C-250, Fraser made a speech: "I cannot possibly support an amendment that deletes the reference to sexual orientation — that is what this bill is all about. It is about coming to the public, official, formal, solemn defence of an extremely vulnerable minority. We have supported this bill at second reading and in committee. I personally support it strongly. I want it on the record that when — I hope before too long — this chamber, in a second bill, is asked to include sex as one of the grounds in this same portion of the Criminal Code, I will gladly support that." July 5, 2005: "In my view, six hours of debate is a long debate. The motion now before us proposes six hours of debate. That length of time allows for 24 speakers, plus the five we have already heard, which makes 29. How many bills on second reading are addressed by 29 speakers in this chamber?"
George Furey	Absent	Yes	Newfoundland and Labrador
Aurélien Gill	Absent	Absent	Quebec
Jerry Grafstein	Yes	Yes	Ontario
Mac Harb	Yes	Yes	Ontario
	Harb Supported SSM as an MP, according to marriagevote.ca
Daniel Hays	Did not vote	Did not vote	Alberta
	Hays is speaker of the Senate. Unlike the House speaker, he is entitled to vote regardless of whether or not there is a tie, and is free to vote by his conscience rather than by convention, although this power is rarely used.
Céline Hervieux-Payette	Abstained	No	Quebec
Elizabeth Hubley	Yes	Yes	Prince Edward Island
Mobina Jaffer	Absent	Yes	British Columbia
Serge Joyal	Yes	Yes	Quebec
	Wrote letter in support of C-38. Copy on his website. July 4, 2005: Joyal opened the second reading debate arguing in favour of the bill and is listed as Bill C-38's mover in the Senate. Says that "Bill C-38 is about restoring full human dignity to a minority that has long been the object of persecution, marginalization and outrage. It is an issue of minority rights." Says that the Senate was in fact structured to provide for the protection of minorities.
Colin Kenny	Absent	Yes	Ontario
Michael Kirby	Absent	Absent	Nova Scotia
Jean Lapointe	Yes	Absent	Quebec
	July 5, 2005: Was one of a few senators that said "no" to allowing Conservative Senator Anne C. Cools an extension of time during 2nd reading debate. Also voted on the motion that passed, which limited debate to six hours in 2nd reading.
Raymond Lavigne	Yes	Absent	Quebec
Rose-Marie Losier-Cool	Absent	Yes	New Brunswick
Shirley Maheu	Yes	Yes	Quebec
	April 21: Stated in the Senate that "the passage of the Civil Marriage Act will honour 20 years of positive growth of some human rights achieved by way of section 15 of our charter."
Frank Mahovlich	Yes	Yes	Ontario
	July 5, 2005: "Mahovlich responded to Senator Tkachuk saying he misinterpreted Senator Joyal, when Joyal said the Minister of Justice could make comments and answer questions at the committee, via videoconferencing while in France before Friday due to his schedule in France. Tkachuk says it is a ploy to get the bill out of 2nd reading by that time.
Paul J. Massicotte	Absent	Yes	Quebec
Terry M. Mercer	Yes	Yes	Nova Scotia
	Mentioned SSM in a list of measures he is proud of: Hansard, February 12, 2004. April: Confirmed once again he will support.
Pana Merchant	Absent	No	Saskatchewan
	Voted against Bill C-250
Lorna Milne	Yes	Yes	Ontario
Grant Mitchell	Yes	Yes	Alberta
Wilfred P. Moore	Absent	Abstained	Nova Scotia
	Senator Moore indicated he would have voted against the bill had he not abstained due to pairing.
Jim Munson	Absent	Yes	Ontario
Landon Pearson	Yes	Yes	Ontario
Lucie Pépin	Yes	Yes	Quebec
	She was the sponsor of C-250 in the Senate.
Robert Peterson	Yes	Yes	Saskatchewan
Gerard A. Phalen	No	No	Nova Scotia
Marie-Paule Poulin	Absent	Yes	Ontario
Vivienne Poy	Yes	Yes	Ontario
	Responded to a letter saying she will vote in favour of C-38.
Pierrette Ringuette	Yes	Yes	New Brunswick
Fernand Robichaud	Yes	Yes	New Brunswick
	June 29: C-38 entered 1st reading in the Senate today. Senator Prud'homme wanted to accelerate debate to the next sitting of the Senate. While some senators disagreed, Robichaud stated "move it into committee".
Bill Rompkey	Yes	Yes	Newfoundland and Labrador
	Rompkey is Deputy Government House Leader in the Senate and thus is expected to vote in favour. On July 4, 2005 he tabled a notice of motion to restrict debate on second reading to six hours.
Nick Sibbeston	Absent	No	Northwest Territories
	Voted against Bill C-250
David P. Smith	Absent	Yes	Ontario
Peter Stollery	Yes	Absent	Ontario
Claudette Tardif	Yes	Yes	Alberta
Marilyn Trenholme Counsell	Yes	Yes	New Brunswick
	July 6, 2005: While C-38 was in 2nd reading, she said ``As a Christian, I often ask myself: `What would Jesus do?'." "In this case, in this time, I believe he would say `Yes.'"
Charlie Watt	Absent	Absent	Quebec
	41	5	(2 abstained, 14 absent)

Conservatives

Name	2nd Reading	3rd Reading	Province
Raynell Andreychuk	Abstained		Saskatchewan
	July 5, 2005: Made a speech criticizing time allocation of the bill in 2nd reading. However, she did say "this is an issue about human rights. Any violation of human rights commands urgency. This is not just about same sex. This is about the right to freedom of expression and religion. It is about how we balance those elements."
W. David Angus	Absent	No	Quebec
	Voted against Bill C-250
John M. Buchanan	No	No	Nova Scotia
Pat Carney	Absent	Absent	British Columbia
	May 2, 1980: As an MP, Pat Carney introduced Bill C-242, an act to prohibit discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation, The bill, which would have inserted "sexual orientation" into the Canadian Human Rights Act, didn't pass.
Ethel M. Cochrane	No	No	Newfoundland and Labrador
	Voted against Bill C-250
Gerald J. Comeau	No	No	Nova Scotia
Anne C. Cools	No	No	Ontario
	Voted against Bill C-250 Former Liberal senator. Says the Government of Canada has a moral obligation to go to the people of Canada. Sept 17, 2003: Says her position is that of the majority of Canadians. "Because Children and procreation are the result of that unit—it is one of those mysteries and miracles of life." April 9, 2005: Was one of several speakers at the "March 4 Marriage" rally in Ottawa. April 25, 2005: Stated in the senate: "This Parliament votes in one direction one day and goes in the opposite direction the next day. I saw that on the question of marriage. The Attorney General of Canada argued on one side of the issue one day and on the other side the next."
Consiglio Di Nino	No	No	Ontario
	July 6, 2005: Responding to a Senator who said she was a Christian and believes if Jesus were asked to vote, He would say "yes", Di Nino said "I don't have the same relationship with Jesus, obviously, as [Senator] Trenholme Counsell."
John Trevor Eyton	Absent	No	Ontario
J. Michael Forrestall	Absent	No	Nova Scotia
	Voted against Bill C-250
Leonard J. Gustafson	Absent	No	Saskatchewan
	Voted against Bill C-33 (1996)
Janis G. Johnson	Yes	Absent	Manitoba
James F. Kelleher	No	No	Ontario
Wilbert Joseph Keon	No	No	Ontario
Noël A. Kinsella	No	No	New Brunswick
	Kinsella, the opposition leader, said in the February 11 Moncton Times & Transcript, "I will approach the bill objectively. I am not going to prejudge anything." July 4, 2005: C-38 speech in 2nd reading: "by introducing Bill C-38, the government is attempting to link Charter rights and human rights to the sacrament of marriage. Marriage has nothing to do with Charter rights or human rights, in the view of many of us. This debate is about a political and social policy decision made by the government." Says there alternative approaches instead of dividing Canadians by passing the bill and legalizing same-sex marriage. Voted No on second reading.
Marjory LeBreton	Abstained	Abstained	Ontario
Michael A. Meighen	Absent	Yes	Ontario
Pierre Claude Nolin	Absent	Absent	Quebec
	In January 2005, Nolin announced that the Quebec-wing of the CPC would be bringing forward a host of "moderate" principles to the March 2005 CPC Policy Convention in Montreal, including a motion to support the rights of married same-sex couples to equal status in the courts of law. July 5, 2005: While in 2nd reading, he critiqued Senator Rompkey's adopted motion to limit debate to 6 hours due to what Rompkey sees as stalling tactics. "I agree with the government's bill. Just because the rest of the world or the country took part in a debate is no reason for us not to have one. Not to have one would be a disservice to our institution."
Donald H. Oliver	Absent	Absent	Nova Scotia
Gerry St. Germain	Absent	No	British Columbia
	Voted against Bill C-250 September 16, 2003: "Common sense and a respect for the origins of life dictated the evolution of this tradition as embraced in both religious practice and secular conduct". June 29, 2005: C-38 entered 1st reading today. When the Speaker asked when the bill shall be read a second time, St. Germain said "Never!". July 4, 2005: When C-38 entered 2nd reading debate today, St. Germain said the Senate should sit through the fall on this very important issue. "By introducing Bill C-38, the government is attempting to link Charter rights and human rights to the sacrament of marriage. Marriage has nothing to do with Charter rights or human rights, in the view of many of us. This debate is about a political and social policy decision made by the government." Says the Supreme Court of Canada didn't rule the traditional definition of marriage unconstitutional. Also believes same-sex marriage will arode the family.
Terry Stratton	No	No	Manitoba
	Voted against Bill C-250, Bill C-33 (1996) July 4, 2005: Moved a motion to adjourn the debate on C-38 in 2nd reading today.
David Tkachuk	No	No	Saskatchewan
	Voted against Bill C-250, Bill C-33 (1996)
	1	15	(1 abstained, 2 absent)

Independents

Name	2nd Reading	3rd Reading	Province
P. Michael Pitfield	Absent	Absent	Ontario
Madeleine Plamondon	Abstained	No	Quebec
	Voted against Bill C-250 July 5, 2005: Made a speech at 2nd reading saying she will vote against due to religious reasons. Says as a Catholic, she "feels part of an endangered minority." However, abstained when second reading came to a vote
Marcel Prud'homme	Abstained	Yes	Quebec
	Close Trudeau ally and known civil libertarian. Feb 10, 2004: Senator Gérald-A. Beaudoin (and others) comment on his 40th year as a parliamentarian, pointing out that he has stayed true to his father's word, "we must believe in the universality of the protection of human rights or else hold our peace." June 29, 2005: Moved to try have C-38 read a 2nd time at the next sitting of the Senate as opposed to waiting 2 days. July 5, 2005: Says he has yet to make up his mind on the issue, but is against limiting debate. "I will vote against the closure motion if I am in the Senate. If I am not here, just remember that I said I was against this motion. I want to thank Senator Nolin for inspiring my comments yet again."
Jean-Claude Rivest	Absent	Absent	Quebec
	Feb 02, 2005: Expressed support for C-38.
Mira Spivak	Yes	Yes	Manitoba
	Held a civil liberties meeting at her house decades ago for a gay couple looking to get married.
	2	1	(2 absent)

Progressive Conservatives

(Although the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada has merged into the Conservative Party of Canada, these senators have refused to join the new Conservative Party and have chosen to sit in the Senate as "Progressive Conservatives".)

Name	2nd Reading	3rd Reading	Province
Norman K. Atkins	Absent	Yes	Ontario
C. William Doody	Absent	Absent	Newfoundland and Labrador
Elaine McCoy	Yes	Absent	Alberta
Lowell Murray	Absent	Absent	Ontario
	July 4, 2005: Critiqued the official opposition leader, Noel Kinsella: "Honourable senators, I wish to ask the Leader of the Opposition why, on several occasions in his speech, he persisted in blaming the drafters for the flaws that he identified in the bill. Surely the drafters were acting on political instructions of the appropriate ministers."
Nancy Ruth	Absent	Yes	Ontario
	Ruth is openly gay. She is a prominent feminist and gay rights advocate.
	2	0	(3 absent)

New Democrat

Name	2nd Reading	3rd Reading	Province
Lillian Dyck	Yes	Yes	Saskatchewan
	Voted "Yes" on second reading
	1	0	(0 abstained or absent)

Marriage support by seat

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Tardif

Massicotte

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Cowan

McCoy

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Rivest

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Cools

Gustafson

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Eyton

Angus

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Nolin

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Munson

Mercer

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Peterson

Dyck

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Pitfield

Downe

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Spivak

Mitchell

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Ruth

Atkins

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Di Nino

Keon

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Meighen

Forrestall

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Tkachuk

LeBreton

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Johnson

Andreychuk

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Chaput

Merchant

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Trenholme Counsell

Ringuette

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Plamondon

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Doody

Murray

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Carney

Buchanan

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Kelleher

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Kinsella

Stratton

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St. Germain

Cochrane

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Comeau

Oliver

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Fraser

Hubley

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Prud'homme

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Hays

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Bacon

Callbeck

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Joyal

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Fairbairn

Carstairs

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Austin

Rompkey

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Robichaud

de Bané

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Hervieux-Payette

Smith

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Eggleton

Adams

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Watt

Baker

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Kenny

Furey

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Dallaire

Maheu

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Fitzpatrick

Grafstein

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Stollery

Pépin

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Kirby

Losier-Cool

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Milne

Gill

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Cordy

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Lapointe

Jaffer

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Harb

Lavigne

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Phalen

Moore

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Day

Banks

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Ferretti Barth

Corbin

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Cook

Mahovlich

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Poulin

Poy

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Pearson

Bryden

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Sibbeston

Christensen

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Biron

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